David Chang wouldn’t have opened his first restaurant if he wasn’t depressed. Now, with his Momofuku empire that brings joy to foodies everywhere, David still finds himself struggling to find joy. Marc talks with David about their shared demons and what steps they each take to overcome them, in particular creating boundaries, being less angry, and working to correct past mistakes. They also talk about David’s new show The Next Thing You Eat, his friendship with Anthony Bourdain, and his life as a new dad.